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Started by Dedode
03 Jul 2019 15:38
Avatar By Dedode (311)
On 03 Jul 2019 15:45

I think the lack of good animations and graphics is an issue since they announced that half the dex was removed. It would be understandable if they had 1000+ models to animate.
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Avatar By Dedode (311)
On 03 Jul 2019 15:53

Also Dynamax is meh. At first i liked it.
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Avatar By Limxzero (5329)
On 08 Jul 2019 14:51

Sadly it's a matter of Game Freak having the wrong priorities. I don't see improved graphic fidelity and giant Pokemon models being worth it when you consider a limited Dex and shorter development time. It was a mistake to remove the National Pokedex in Generation VII and subsequent games. At the very least, re-brand it, or in the case of Sword and Shield, preserve its integrity with lower quality models from the 3DS. Maybe Masuda has a change of heart and pushes Sword and Shield's release date to 2020. Or work hard on a big game update! Fans would respect that. This controversy takes the Pokemon series in an unfortunate direction, but in the end, it is what it is, and I'm sure it will not stop me from playing Sword/Shield.
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Avatar By Draconid_Jo (85)
On 17 Jul 2019 02:36

Well, IMO, the main things that make a good Pokémon Game, are Good New Pokémon, Good New Features, Good New Characters, and Good New Moves/Held Items/Abilities etc., in that order.

I agree about the removal of the National Pokédex, but in the grand scheme of things, I'd say it's pretty minor.

I don't yet know if they re-added Triple Battles (and Rotation Battles, for that matter) or not, but IMO, that's WAY more important than whether or not they re-added the National Pokédex.

Also, they need to keep in mind that a lot of people have favorite Pokémon that come from prior Generations.

When they added Mega Evolution, they made sure to keep this in mind (although IMO, they should've continued to add more Mega Evolutions in Gen 7, and Gen 8, as well), but with Z-Powers, they didn't do that good of a job at that IMO.

With this "Dynamax" thing, HOPEFULLY they will keep this in mind, and add some special transformations for older Pokémon, as well.

Then again, in all likelihood, the next Games released will be the Sinnoh Remakes, and they might be waiting till those are out for a lot of that sort of stuff.
(It'll be interesting to see how they handle the National Pokédex in those, as it DID exist in the original Sinnoh Games.)
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Avatar By FallingFeathers (2)
On 21 Oct 2019 03:42

Honestly I'm fine with sword and shield as of now, but if we don't have a way to get every starter i'm going to get mad, because a lot of people's faves are starters. Also if Waillord isn't in the game I'll cry, I really want to see dynamax Waillord and Joltik
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Avatar By DCTheGamr (448)
On 12 Jan 2022 06:04

Personally, I think they suck. Its 12:03am as of typing so I won't explain tonight. I might tomorrow though. Basically, there are a lot like the lies of cutting pokemon and the horrible story.
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Avatar By Draconid_Jo (85)
On 13 Jan 2022 18:16

The distinguished FallingFeathers spake:

Honestly I'm fine with sword and shield as of now, but if we don't have a way to get every starter i'm going to get mad, because a lot of people's faves are starters. Also if Waillord isn't in the game I'll cry, I really want to see dynamax Waillord and Joltik


I absolutely agree with what you said about starter Pokémon (AFAIK they removed Totodile, which has always been one of my favorites), and I also agree that seeing a Dynamax Wailord and Joltik would be AWESOME! :)

Concerning what DCTheGamr said, I can't comment on the story since I haven't played it yet (I absolutely LOVED the storyline of OR/AS, though), but in my mind, there is absolutely no justification for the removal of hundreds of Pokémon from the game, so even if their lame excuse was the truth, it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever to me.
(For more information on how I feel about "Dexit", please read this blog of mine.)
……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
Avatar By DCTheGamr (448)
On 24 Jan 2022 03:04

The distinguished Draconid_Jo spake:
The distinguished FallingFeathers spake:[quote]
Honestly I'm fine with sword and shield as of now, but if we don't have a way to get every starter i'm going to get mad, because a lot of people's faves are starters. Also if Waillord isn't in the game I'll cry, I really want to see dynamax Waillord and Joltik


I absolutely agree with what you said about starter Pokémon (AFAIK they removed Totodile, which has always been one of my favorites), and I also agree that seeing a Dynamax Wailord and Joltik would be AWESOME! :)

Concerning what DCTheGamr said, I can't comment on the story since I haven't played it yet (I absolutely LOVED the storyline of OR/AS, though), but in my mind, there is absolutely no justification for the removal of hundreds of Pokémon from the game, so even if their lame excuse was the truth, it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever to me.
(For more information on how I feel about "Dexit", please read <a href="/blog?id=98887" rel="nofollow">this blog</a> of mine.)[/quote]Yeah I agree with you. I have played but this game sucks honestly. It could easily be improved.
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Avatar By Draconid_Jo (85)
On 25 Jan 2022 01:47

Having read that blog of yours where you explain some of the biggest problems with Sw/Sh, I kinda see why you think they suck now.

IDK, I can't bring myself to feel the same way (because I'm a Pokémon addict, lol), but because of the elimination of so many Pokémon and gameplay features, it seems like a MASSIVE step backwards. :(

In Gen 4 (the first gen with internet), there were 493 Pokémon, more than the 400 in Sw/Sh after Dexit, and I suspect that is about where the games were at quality wise, aside from the (relatively) modern graphics.

If SW/Sh were released instead of Diamond and Pearl Versions back in Gen 4, they'd probably have been good games for back then, but only 400 Pokémon and no GTS when people are used to so much more from a Pokémon game now is REALLY lame. :(
(It probably makes the Ultra games and OR/AS still pretty appealing to people, though.)
……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
Avatar By DCTheGamr (448)
On 26 Jan 2022 00:53

The distinguished Draconid_Jo spake:
Having read that blog of yours where you explain some of the biggest problems with Sw/Sh, I kinda see why you think they suck now.

IDK, I can't bring myself to feel the same way (because I'm a Pokémon addict, lol), but because of the elimination of so many Pokémon and gameplay features, it seems like a MASSIVE step backwards. :(

In Gen 4 (the first gen with internet), there were 493 Pokémon, more than the 400 in Sw/Sh after Dexit, and I suspect that is about where the games were at quality wise, aside from the (relatively) modern graphics.

If SW/Sh were released instead of Diamond and Pearl Versions back in Gen 4, they'd probably have been good games for back then, but only 400 Pokémon and no GTS when people are used to so much more from a Pokémon game now is REALLY lame. :(
(It probably makes the Ultra games and OR/AS still pretty appealing to people, though.)
Glad you can kinda see why I hate the game now. Even if you can't bring yourself to not really feel the same way, I hate it.

They took so many things out the games. Gen 4 DP was around the same quality but Platinum and HGSS were better of course so if it was SwSh instead, it would likely be amazing. 400 Pokemon now (or 649 with DLC) and no DLC really sucks. What is sad is that people defend this trash still years later. It is sad. 3 years and still defend it.

Not long ago, people sad GF was still Indie so whatever. Then, when DLC was announced and people were mad, people said that they were a big company so of course they want your money. Clearly, it is a big company but they defend this trash still. The best of the pokemon games are BW2, HGSS, XY, ORAS, and Platinum. ORAS and Emerald can be swapped out between each other in terms of ranking.
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Avatar By Draconid_Jo (85)
On 26 Jan 2022 02:33

The distinguished DCTheGamr spake:



They took so many things out the games. Gen 4 DP was around the same quality but Platinum and HGSS were better of course so if it was SwSh instead, it would likely be amazing. 400 Pokemon now (or 649 with DLC) and no DLC really sucks. What is sad is that people defend this trash still years later. It is sad. 3 years and still defend it.

Not long ago, people sad GF was still Indie so whatever. Then, when DLC was announced and people were mad, people said that they were a big company so of course they want your money. Clearly, it is a big company but they defend this trash still. The best of the pokemon games are BW2, HGSS, XY, ORAS, and Platinum. ORAS and Emerald can be swapped out between each other in terms of ranking.


Yeah, 649 is the EXACT same number of Pokémon as B2/W2. So the went from being worse then the Gen 4 games to equal to the Gen 5 ones (judging them solely based on the number of Pokémon that exist in the games, anyway), even though it costs 50% more than US/UM, which have 158 more Pokémon in them, and far superior online features.
(Among many other advantages over Sw/Sh.)

And yeah, I'd put OR/AS in 1st place because of the AWESOME unique gameplay features (including all of the Secret Base stuff, Contests, Soaring, Diving, and the Triple and Rotation battle formats, just to name a few), the incredibly well-written story (even better than the stories Emerald and Platinum Versions IMO), and incredible graphics, which are probably just as good as those in Sw/Sh anyway.
(Not to mention the Gen 3 nostalgia factor, Mega Rayquaza and the Primals, and ZINNIA!❤️)

I'd put HG/SS in 2nd place (although they're pretty old now, they are still truly incredible Pokémon games), US/UM in 3rd (they'd probably have been in 2nd if they hadn't removed Triple battles), B2W2 in 4th (mostly because of the PWT and Join Avenue), X/Y in 5th, Platinum in 6th (best Sinnoh game out there, although BD/SP may have surpassed it), Emerald in 7th, S/M in 8th (mostly just 'cause the Ultra games are out now, and they're better), FR/LG in 9th, and the original R/S in 10th place.
(I'm not including anything pre-Gen 3, although Crystal Version was obviously AWESOME!)

IDK, I'm probably slightly off on those last few, but the main point is that were I to include Sw/Sh, they'd (based on everything that I now know) probably come in at around 8th place, just ahead of the now obsolete (except for from a storyline standpoint) original Gen 7 games.
(And without the Expansion Pass, I'd probably rank them lower.)
……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
Avatar By DCTheGamr (448)
On 26 Jan 2022 04:59

The distinguished Draconid_Jo spake:
Yeah, 649 is the EXACT same number of Pokémon as B2/W2. So the went from being worse then the Gen 4 games to equal to the Gen 5 ones (judging them solely based on the number of Pokémon that exist in the games, anyway), even though it costs 50% more than US/UM, which have 158 more Pokémon in them, and far superior online features.
(Among many other advantages over Sw/Sh.)

And yeah, I'd put OR/AS in 1st place because of the AWESOME unique gameplay features (including all of the Secret Base stuff, Contests, Soaring, Diving, and the Triple and Rotation battle formats, just to name a few), the incredibly well-written story (even better than the stories Emerald and Platinum Versions IMO), and incredible graphics, which are probably just as good as those in Sw/Sh anyway.
(Not to mention the Gen 3 nostalgia factor, Mega Rayquaza and the Primals, and ZINNIA!❤️)

I'd put HG/SS in 2nd place (although they're pretty old now, they are still truly incredible Pokémon games), US/UM in 3rd (they'd probably have been in 2nd if they hadn't removed Triple battles), B2W2 in 4th (mostly because of the PWT and Join Avenue), X/Y in 5th, Platinum in 6th (best Sinnoh game out there, although BD/SP may have surpassed it), Emerald in 7th, S/M in 8th (mostly just 'cause the Ultra games are out now, and they're better), FR/LG in 9th, and the original R/S in 10th place.
(I'm not including anything pre-Gen 3, although Crystal Version was obviously AWESOME!)

IDK, I'm probably slightly off on those last few, but the main point is that were I to include Sw/Sh, they'd (based on everything that I now know) probably come in at around 8th place, just ahead of the now obsolete (except for from a storyline standpoint) original Gen 7 games.
(And without the Expansion Pass, I'd probably rank them lower.)
Based off pokemon numbers, yeah they went to around gen 5 if you don't count alt forms. So basically, Gen 5 was cheaper, had more features like Video chat, better story, more pokemon at launch (even in BW1 if it's pre-DLC), and more yet SwSh has less. It is horrible. I have been playing pokemon since 2014, but I hate this honestly.

I'd put XY, ORAS, BW2, and HGSS on the same place. XY because first game. ORAS bc as gud as XY. BW2 bc best of all games. HGSS for being best remake. Graphics are amazing on all of them.

Honestly, I agree. In fact, it should be rated lower bc of DLC. They managed to make it more than previous games without having to sell a new game.
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